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Prozac and Fluorine

Fom the archives of  askwaltstollmd.com 

Posted by Lorna on December 06, 2002 at 12:11:00: Here is an eye-opening article on Prozac from Stratiawire.com:
Friday, December 06, 2002

NAILING DOWN PROZAC-FLUORINE CONNECTION
DECEMBER 6. EXCLUSIVE STRATIA WIRE REPORT. THE LID IS OFF, FINALLY. THE TRUTH IS OUT.
For over a year, I have been pursuing a story about Prozac. I have received much opinion and estimate, but until now I have been chasing elusive facts. Now the facts are in.
I am perfectly willing to have these facts challenged, but only with better facts, not with feelings or presumptions or agendas.
Here is what I’ve been chasing down: the assertion that Prozac actually contains fluorides.
As many of us know, the subject of fluorides (in toothpaste, mouthwash, water supplies of cities) has been a very hot topic. As in, are these chemicals toxic to the human body?
I’ve written on this before, and you can find the stories in my archive. Particularly, there has been terrific conflict at the EPA, where scientists have gone on the record with claims that fluorides in water supplies ARE toxic.
See other data on overgrowth of bones, crippling skeletal malformations, arthritic symptoms of varying severity, et al. From Fluorides.
There is much data in the counter-literature suggesting that fluorides can cause cancer.
I believe no one with an open mind can read the vast counter-literature on fluorides without concluding that these ubiquitous compounds do cause very serious problems.
Okay. Let’s start with this: The RxList site is an authoritative venue for information about medical drugs. After looking up Prozac and its composition, I emailed RxList and asked for a statement about the possible fluoride content of Prozac.
I received a timely answer from one of their pros, Neil Sandow, Pharm. D. “Each molecule of fluoxetime HCL (Prozac) contains three fluoride atoms.”
I queried back to find out whether “fluoride atoms” meant “FLUORINE atoms,” since it was my understanding that fluoride is a term that applies to molecules (combinations of atoms), whereas fluorine is the element and therefore any atoms would be called fluorine. I was told that I was correct.
With that little personal confusion straightened out, I asked RxList another question: Could they tell me the weight, in milligrams, of the fluorine in a standard daily dose of Prozac? After all, you always want to know about dose level.
Here was the reply from Sandow. I am giving you the details, in case anyone wants to challenge these facts or the arithmetic. F stands for fluorine in the message I received: “F molecular weight=18.9984032. There are 3 F’s in each Prozac molecule, so 3 x 18.9984032 = 57.
“The molecular weight of the Prozac molecule is 345.79.
“The proportion of Fluorine to Prozac is 57 / 345.79 = .165 or 16.5%.
“So, for a typical daily dose of 20mg of Prozac the amount of fluorine would be .165 x 20 = 3.3mg (or 6.6mg for a 40mg/day dose).”
Every day that a person takes a standard dose of Prozac, he gets 3.3 milligrams of fluorine. At the higher dose, he gets 6.6 milligrams of fluorine.
As you might imagine, over the years there has been much debate about the level at which fluorine becomes toxic for humans. I found a writer, Darlene Sherrell, who has done much work in this area. With a search engine, you can find her highly recommended piece which goes over this issue with a fine tooth comb. (“The Dose is the Poison”)
I wrote her and relayed the fluorine content of Prozac. She replied, “It is certainly clear…for the typical individual, 6.6mg/day [of fluorine] is more than enough to cause crippling skeletal fluorosis…and 3.3mg [of fluorine per day] is darn close. For the sensitive individual one Prozac a day would be excessive and likely to cause gastrointestinal problems almost immediately.”
So there it is.
Of course, I am commenting here on a narrow aspect of what Prozac does to the human brain and body. My archived articles go into all the other forms of damage this drug can deliver.
I’d say it’s time to get this information out to people.
In a related matter, Dartmouth researcher, Roger Masters, has discovered in a survey of Massachusetts communities, that there is a correlation between areas where silicofluorides are placed in the water and the presence of LEAD. I have queried him as to why he thinks this correlation is present. But his detailed research shows that (highly toxic) lead seems to “follow” these fluoride compounds around. One can only imagine how many cases of the bogus disorder called ADHD have been diagnosed---when lead and fluorides are the real culprits.
Masters writes, “Silicofluorides are largely untested. Virtually all research on fluoridation safety has focused on sodium fluoride, even though the studies in the 1930s showed important biological differences between these chemicals. The correlation with blood levels is especially serious because lead poisoning is associated with higher rates of learning disabilities, hyperactivity, substance abuse and crime.”
Masters, according to a Dartmouth press release, points out that “over 90 percent of America’s fluoridated drinking water supplies are treated with silicofluorides.”
(I want to thank RxList for timely help. They had no idea where I was going with this fluorine information, and it should not be inferred that they were trying to help me make a case against Prozac.)
Footnote: I'm well aware that varying degrees of evidence have been put forward to show that fluorides create a marked sedative effect in humans. I'm still following that one down. If true, this would put yet more light on the impact of Prozac on the population.
 

Re: Prozac and Fluorine

Posted by PeterB on December 06, 2002 at 18:13:23:

In Reply to: Prozac and Fluorine posted by Lorna on December 06, 2002 at 12:11:00:
not suprsing since it was used in early medicine to treat hyperthyroidism. the real problem for most of us is its recirculation in the food chain. Many teas are highly contaminated, even organic fruits and veggies irrigated with treated water. LINK

Pumpkin Smoothie, I tried this on the family for breakfast this a.m. They liked it!
Pumpkin is rich in Protein, Beta-Carotene,B-vitamins, Vit. C, and iron.
A great way to start the day!!

Here's my recipe:
1-1/2 C. vanilla almond milk (sweetened)
1 C. pumpkin
1/2 tsp. Pumpkin Pie Spice
1 C. ice
1 Tbs. maple syrup

 1-2 Bananas (optional)
BLEND and serve
The smoothie without the bananas was very good and pumpkiny, I added the bananas for texture and to tone down the pumpkin flavor, either way it's tasty!

I think I will try a chocolate version of this next, I'll let you know... :)

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The Cancer-Dairy Connection... Studies Reveal Evidence

T. Colin Campbell Writes in The Wall Street Journal

T. Colin Campbell, PhD, wrote a segment in The Wall Street Journal as part of a debate article titled “Would We be Healthier With a Vegan Diet."

Among other things, Dr. Campbell discussed his findings on casein, the main protein found in dairy, saying, “Casein, in fact, is the most 'relevant' chemical carcinogen ever identified; its cancer-producing effects occur in animals at consumption levels close to normal—strikingly unlike cancer-causing environmental chemicals that are fed to lab animals at a few hundred or even a few thousand times their normal levels of consumption."

Cut Animal-Based Protein

By T. Colin Campbell
I was raised on a dairy farm. I milked cows until starting my doctoral research over 50 years ago at Cornell University in the animal-science department. Meat and dairy foods were my daily fare, and I loved them.
When I began my experimental research program on the effects of nutrition on cancer and other diseases, I assumed it was healthy to eat plenty of meat, milk and eggs. But eventually, our evidence raised questions about some of my most-cherished beliefs and practices.
Our findings, published in top peer-reviewed journals, pointed away from meat and milk as the building blocks of a healthy diet, and toward whole, plant-based foods with little or no added oil, sugar or salt.
My dietary practices changed based on these findings, and so did those of my family. So, what is this evidence that has had such an impact on my life?
In human population studies, prevalence rates of heart disease and certain cancers strongly associate with animal-protein-based diets, usually reported as total fat consumption. Animal-based protein isn't the only cause of these diseases, but it is a marker of the simultaneous effects of multiple nutrients found in diets that are high in meat and dairy products and low in plant-based foods.

Healthy Kids- Lunch-Box Options

     While nothing ( in our kids' opinion) could ever replace the hot and cheesy favorite on Pizza Mondays or Fridays in the school cafeteria, we can  still help balance the nutrient void there by accompanying the meal with some fresh cut up veggies, some fresh fruit, and spring water on the side.
    There are many mom's who believe that their kids will not eat the colorful raw veggies in a baggie if found in their lunchbox, but this has been proven false to me over the years. My experience has been that when I would send the cut up veggies in my daughter's lunches, she would come home requesting that I pack more in the lunch, because her friends would ask her to share her veggies with them, especially when I sent in sliced cucumbers, snap peas, and orange bell peppers.  These veggies seem to be tasty on their own, without the need for dips and dressings. Dips were to follow so I was very happy when humus was available in single-serve packs. Humus is very high in protein, iron, and fiber, and a perfect  replacement for highly processed (chemical and hormone laden) lunch meats.
    Boys, on the other hand differ... They don't usually share, they trade... Not too many boys are willing to trade their Fruit (yeah right) Gushers, for something not sugary and chemically altered. BUT, this has not stopped them from eating the veggies and fruit packed in their own lunch bags...
  I ask my kids occasionally what their favorite veggies/fruits are and then I try to rotate them, so that they don't tire of eating them. Sometimes they even ask me for the canned black olives, which I happily accommodate.
      Offering our children fresh cut up fruits and veggies at home for after-school and TV snacks will help them adjust to the idea of eating more of them.  Offer them sweet, juicy fruit options like pineapple, mangoes, watermelon, berries, and cherries. These fruits are  not only more satisfying to the sweet- lovers pallet, but chock full of anti-oxidants, fiber, vitamins, as well as enzymes which aid digestion. I just cut up the fruits and throw them into a baggie along with a plastic spork or tooth pick for handling purposes.
     While many well intended people believe that they are already doing right by their kids, by adding a cup of applesauce or fruit cocktail to their child's lunch, sadly are misinformed. These so called "healthy" snacks are  highly processed and denatured to the point where all the nutrients are gone and what is actually left is acidic sugar with possibly a little fiber, which can spike ones blood sugar, as well as weakening the immune system. Fruit that has been cooked is rendered acidic and is devoid of it's enzymatic life force.You can create much healthier versions of these by mixing 2-3 different kinds of fruit together like grapes and strawberries, or strawberries with pineapple and mango chunks (leftovers from your a.m. smoothie) into a baggie or small container. Kids do appreciate when food is manageable or kid friendly so pre-slicing an apple and wrapping it tightly in cling-wrap could make the difference in whether your child eats it or not.
      Keeping the food visually appealing can also make or break the deal. Be creative... you can take a typically boring sandwich and re-dress it up as a wrap or place it on a whole grain roll or bagel and add a little lettuce and tomato which visually, as well as nutritionally, upgrades the sandwich. I just happen to use baby spinach greens or arugula instead of iceburg lettuce, romaine is also a good choice.
Sushi rolls, tacos, and  bean burritos also are great, fun ways to get healthier ingredients into our kids and they will love you for it!
    Remember, it's not always about convenience when it comes to our kids' health, but a few ounces of prevention, like making better food choices, can actually prevent pounds of cure in the long run when our kids are able to ride out the cold and flu season "In School".

Some other Lunch-Box Snack ideas:

Blue-corn chips
popcorn-  (non-microwaved)
whole-grain crackers
dried  or dehydrated fruit and nut mixes
healthy granola mix
healthy (home-made) naturally sweetened oatmeal cookies